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Child Benefit – Proposed changes

Written by John O' Connor on August 21, 2009

Family in Meadow

Taxation Commission – Messy Child Benefit changes?

We are all very glad for Child Benefit – at €166 per month per child (that’s nearly €2,000 a year tax-free), it’s an important part of most of our household Budgets.

But there is also the aspect that many who receive the child payment earn so much anyway, the question is asked why are they getting this additional free money. Could it be better spent? Can that money be distributed more equitably?

The Commission on Taxation’s job was to make suggestions across the spectrum of tax and social payments and Child benefit is proving to be one of the most vexing issues. But they will be recommending to the Government next week that Child Benefit is made taxable.

How would Taxing Child Benefit work?

in simple terms, this means you have an extra €2,000 of income per child subject to tax.

  • Not paying Tax:  If you are not earning, or are not paying any income tax, then you will have no change to your income
  • Paying 20% Tax on your pay: Then your pay will be reduced by€33 per month (that’s €166 times 20%) per child.
  • Paying higher rate tax (41%): Then your pay will be reduced by €68 per month (being €166 times 41%) per child

So you probably still receive the €166 as normal, but your pay packet will be affected.

Is that it?

well it couldn’t be that simple, could it!

  • Who gets taxed on it?  The mother or the father?  especially for unmarried couples or single parents, this could be a bunfight.  But even for married couples where one earns high and the other low, depending on who’s income it is deemed you could effectively play the system.
  • Can it be taxed?  child benefit is for the child, to be spent on the child.  There is a question that this is illegal.

Just leave it alone

I think this could end up as an emotive, politically messy issue, much like the medical card issue last year. As dad to a near 2 year old, we have already become emotionally attached to this payment (although me a little more!)

I do think while fairer and more equitable, taxing child benefit or making it means tested would both end up messy. It’s going to get emotive with property taxes, carbon taxes and water rates also on the table, so leave us our Child Benefit as our comfort blanket while we get used to those.

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7 replies to “Child Benefit – Proposed changes

  1. Irish mammy

    Hi there

    Interesting post, please join our petition to save child benefit that is our message too, it’s too messy to tax, administratively it will cost too much to means-test it – flat rate cuts will hit the lower income earner so just leave it alone, find the money elsewhere. Families have already taken huge hits with the loss of ECS, increased levies etc.

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  2. Post Author John

    Hi Irish mammy.
    Glad to hear there is support on this matter.

    I think it’s important that we make this point now so the goverment is sure of the public view before any hard decisions are made.

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  3. amanda

    Think that the idea of taxing child benefit is disgusting. Many working families have mortgage payments,regular maintenance costs on housing e.g. boiler servicing, general wear and tear, medical bills, childcare costs, travel to work costs etc. Many persons on social welfare can access social housing which comes with free household maintenance i.e. if heating system goes landlord is responsible – same for roofing, re-wiring costs, replacement windows etc, they have medical cards, no childcare costs etc.
    Consideration isn’t given to working parents who have huge childcare costs. Already losing early childhood allowance.tax, income levies, medical bills etc, I know cuts have to be made so why don’t they just cut the universal rate to €150 per month per child and increase the qualified child allowance for persons in receipt fo social welfare by the difference extra €4.00 per week per child for persons on welfare. Us taxpayers are paying far too much tax. If I’m taxed anymore, I’ll have no choice but to leave employment as i could’t afford to pay for childcare.

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  4. Post Author John

    Hi Amanda,
    You reminded me that childcare allowance was cut. I think child benefit cuts are on the agenda because the reaction was so passive to the childcare allowance. Though given the strength of the reaction here and on places like http://www.childbenefit.info, I don’t think they will tax or means test it in case of a reaction similar to the medical card fiasco.

    It’s shocking to think though that you could be taxed out of employment. it shows the effect all the different levies and taxes are having.

    The Tax commission said that they did not think that taxes should be raised over all, but the burden redistributed across tax and levy types – but significantly left it open that this is to be done ‘over time’. I reckon that’s an open invitation to sock it to us in the short term – your post is a warning of the possible employment impact of that approach

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  5. Jane

    I have a question if taxation of child benefit is introduced does anyone know if it will be added to income and effectively bump anyone just inside the lower tax bracket up to the next one??

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  6. Post Author John O'Connor

    Hi Jane,
    This is one of the ways in which they could do it – and I thik this is generally what they are generally trying to achieve: make child benefit taxable at your higher rate. so if that pushed you into higher rate, then it would be taxable at the higher rate.
    I would say though Jane, that they haven’t given any indication if they will do this at all. It’s very hard to know which way they will swing on this come December and we may not know until Budget day.

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